Many people love to use the NIV or New International Version Bible. However, most of them are oblivious to terrifying ways how the NIV corrupted the Word of God. Don’t believe me? Here are the reasons you should stop using the NIV Bible!
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The New International Version or simply, the NIV, is currently the second most popular translation of the Bible. However, this does not mean that you have to follow this trend. Before you reach for the NIV Bible, I want to warn you of its silent molestation and corruption of the Bible!
Yes, you read that right. Molestation and corruption. Strong words. So, let me explain my point.
After reading this post and you still rely on your salvation on this unholy Bible translation, then it is up to you to answer to God. I know this can be a big shock to many Christians and non-Christians alike, but the NIV Bible isn’t what it claims to be.
Don’t believe me? Then, please read these 12 compelling reasons you should not use the NIV.
Read on to find out more!
Reason no. 1: Missing verses
The most obvious reason you should not use the NIV is that a lot of Bible verses are missing!
Let me just give you a few examples.
Open your New King James Version to Luke 9:56 and you will read:
“For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.
Now, compare that to NIV:
Then he and his disciples went to another village.
That’s it! That’s all that you can read in the NIV. You won’t read the first part of the verse which I believe is a powerful and important message for all Christians.
Now, if you are just reading Luke 9:56 in the NIV, you won’t know that Yahshua the Messiah or Jesus Christ did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them!
Isn’t it sad?
Now, this is not just the only omission in the NIV. Let me give you another example. Compare Matthew 18:11:
For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost (NKJV).
Now, turn to Matthew 18:11 in your NIV Bible. What do you see? Nothing but a footnote – a footnote that says, “Some manuscripts include here the words of Luke 19:10.”
This footnote confirms that NIV is missing a verse and rightly so.
Again, the statement you read in Matthew 18:11 is an important aspect of Christ’s ministry. He came to the world to save the lost! However, this very word is denied to all NIV readers!
Let me give you another example of NIV’s deliberate shredding of God’s word. Read Matthew 9:13.
NKJV – But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”
NIV – But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”
Did you see the subtle difference between the two translations? NKJV specifically mentioned that Jesus is calling the sinners TO REPENTANCE! You won’t read these words in the NIV translation.
Now, these three verses are among the many passages that the NIV changed. According to one estimate I read, there are over 60,000 words deleted in the NIV translation!
Let me give you a list of some of the verses that NIV deleted.
- Matthew 17:21
- Matthew 23:14
- Mark 7:16
- Mark 9:44
- Mark 9:46
- Mark 11:26
- Mark 15:28
- Luke 17:36
- John 5:3–4
- Acts 8:37
- Acts 15:34
- Acts 24:6–8
- Acts 28:29
- Romans 16:24
Those are some of the verses that were eternally denied to all NIV users.
Go, check it yourself and confirm how NIV molested the Bible by eliminating these important verses from your Bible.
If you think this is something of minor importance, then think again. As the Apostle mentioned, a little leaven leavens the whole lump (Galatians 5:9). The compound effect of these missing verses surely leads to many deceptions and sadly, a misunderstanding of the scripture.
Reason no. 2: NIV contradicts other Bible translations
Picture this: you are having a discussion with your church members, friends, or family. Then suddenly, you noticed that your Bibles don’t agree!
It is one thing when two people don’t agree and it is completely a different thing to see the Word of God clashing with each other!
If you read the NIV and compare it to NKJV, you will see a glaring discrepancy. Let me give you some examples:
- Revelation 8:13 – an angel (NKJV); an eagle (NIV) – so which is which? Is it an angel or an eagle?
- Ephesians 5:9 – for the fruit the spirit (NKJV); for the fruit of the light (NIV) – The phrase “the fruit of the spirit” is more believable since it is a common expression throughout the Bible.
- Luke 4:44 – synagogues of Galilee (NKJV); synagogues of Judea (NIV)
- Revelation 13:1 – in this verse, NIV mentioned that it was the dragon that stood on the shore of the sea, but in NKJV, you will read that it was John who stood on the shore of the sea. Such inconsistency can easily shake the faith of a babe in Christ.
These are just some of the minor differences in wording between NKJV and NIV. Though minor, they can nevertheless change the meaning of a verse. This leads us to the third point.
Reason no. 3: Meaning of the verse changed
If you change a word in a verse, it will affect the entire message or meaning of the verse. Notice how the NIV undermined the eternal existence of Yahshua or Jesus in Micah 5:2:
Here’s what the NIV mentioned:
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.”
Compare this with what the NKJV mentioned:
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of you shall come forth to Me the One to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting.”
There’s a huge difference between everlasting and ancient times.
One of the greatest proofs of Christ’s divinity is His eternal existence. If you are to prove this, you can always go to Micah 5:2. However, if you are going to use the NIV, you will be disappointed to see that Christ is only mentioned to exist from “ancient times!”
“From everlasting” denotes Christ’s eternal existence.
“Ancient times” is only saying that Christ is very old or He has a beginning!
Reason no. 4: NIV denies Christ as the Creator
This might be a shock to many Christians, but Yahshua or Jesus Christ is the Creator of all things. Now, this is entirely a different topic that I won’t discuss today, but you may simply check out these verses as they prove that Christ is the Creator: Colossians 1:16; John 1:1-3; and Hebrews 11:3.
There’s one particular verse that I want you to take a look at. It’s found in Ephesians 3:9:
“And to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things” (NIV).
“And to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ” (NKJV).
Did you see a big difference? NIV just denied Christ’s Creatorship!
This is a direct assault on Christ’s divine nature and His role as our Creator, Savior, and Messiah.
Now, if you are just using the NIV, how would you know this profound truth written in the pages of your Bible? Surely, NIV users are again eternally denied of this truth.
Reason no. 5: NIV suggests that Joseph is the father of Christ
Look into Luke 2:33 and compare NIV and NKJV.
The child’s father and mother marveled at what was said about him (NIV).
And Joseph and His mother marveled at those things which were spoken of Him (NKJV).
Jesus does not have a human father. Replacing the name Joseph with “child’s father” directly goes against the teaching of the Bible that Christ was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18). If Christ has a human father, then the prophecy of the Messiah being born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14) has become a deception.
(Discover the life-changing lessons from the life of Joseph and Mary).
Reason no. 6: NIV underestimated Christ’s Miracles
One insult in Christ’s divinity is enough to make your head spinning especially if you read the Bible. How much more if the insult is done multiple times? This is exactly what the NIV has done!
If it isn’t enough to insult Christ’s divine nature, NIV went on to undermine or downplay His miracles.
Observe the following verses:
NKJV – For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had.
NIV – MISSING.
NKJV – But as He went, the multitudes thronged Him. Now a woman, having a flow of blood for twelve years, who had spent all her livelihood on physicians and could not be healed by any, came from behind and touched the border of His garment. And immediately her flow of blood stopped.
NIV – As Jesus was on his way, the crowds almost crushed him. And a woman was there who had been subject to bleeding for twelve years, but no one could heal her. She came up behind him and touched the edge of his cloak, and immediately her bleeding stopped.
Comment: NIV simply didn’t include “who had spent her livelihood on physicians.” This portion of the passage shows the seriousness of the woman’s illness. He had searched far and wide to get healed but to no avail. Reading NIV won’t give you this precious insight into the impact of Christ’s miracle on the woman.
NKJV – Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead man was lying. And Jesus lifted up His eyes and said, “Father, I thank You that You have heard Me.
NIV – So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, “Father, I thank you that you have heard me.
As always, NKJV gives us a clearer and more complete picture. John wants to emphasize the fact that Lazarus is indeed dead already. The NIV simply mentioned, “They took away the stone.” However, NKJV added, “From the place where the DEAD MAN was lying.”
NIV – So he went to her, took her hand and helped her up. The fever left her and she began to wait on them.
NKJV – So He came and took her by the hand and lifted her up, and immediately the fever left her. And she served them.
Again, NKJV gives us how powerful the miracle of Christ. The NIV leaves the option for the reader to think when Peter’s mother-in-law was healed. It could have been a few minutes or hours later. But in the NKJV, the writer makes it very clear that the healing of Christ was fast, swift, and effective!
Let me give other scriptures where the NIV simply falls short in showing the power of Christ’s miracle.
NIV – He appointed twelve that they might be with him and that he might send them out to preach 15 and to have authority to drive out demons.
NKJV – Then He appointed twelve, that they might be with Him and that He might send them out to preach, and to have the power to heal sicknesses and to cast out demons.
NIV – Immediately he spoke to them and said, “Take courage! It is I. Don’t be afraid.” Then he climbed into the boat with them, and the wind died down. They were completely amazed, for they had not understood about the loaves; their hearts were hardened.
NJKV –for they all saw Him and were troubled. But immediately He talked with them and said to them, “Be of good cheer! It is I; do not be afraid.” Then He went up into the boat to them, and the wind ceased. And they were greatly amazed in themselves beyond measure, and marveled. For they had not understood about the loaves, because their heart was hardened.
NIV – I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
NKJV – Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall BY ANY MEANS hurt you.
Reason no. 7: NIV eliminates Christ’s comfort
Isn’t it comforting to know that we can always run to God our heavenly Father and Yahshua/Jesus every time we are in need, when we are lonely and sad, and even during our darkest hours?
But sad to say, NIV has also eliminated some of the most comforting words of Jesus Christ. Notice Luke 4:18-19:
NIV – The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.”
NKJV – “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He has anointed Me to preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed; to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.”
Jesus Christ was sent to heal the brokenhearted. If you are heartbroken and you only use the NIV, how would you be able to find this comforting verse?
Another verse the NIV altered is found in Luke 8:48:
NIV – Then he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has healed you. Go in peace.”
NKJV – And He said to her, “Daughter, be of good cheer [or be of good comfort, KJV]; your faith has made you well. Go in peace.”
Christ brings comfort and Luke 8:48 shows us this. Sadly, you won’t read this in the NIV version.
Reason no. 8: NIV deleted Christ’s teachings
The murder of NIV of Christ’s words didn’t stop. It also went on as far as changing and deleting the teachings of our Lord and Master.
Consider Matthew 5:44:
NIV – But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
NKJV – But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
In the NIV, we can only read a portion of Christ’s instruction on how to love our enemies. However, the NKJV version goes on to say to bless those who curse us, do good to those who hate us, and pray for those who SPITEFULLY use you. If you study the Bible and use the NIV, I’m sure you will not have the same idea how to love your enemies compared to those who read the NKJV.
How about Mark 11:26? Let’s see the difference.
NIV – MISSING.
NKJV – But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.
Now, this is a HUGE difference that you can’t ignore!
Jesus Christ taught that God the Father can forgive us of our sins, but there is one reason that He might not forgive us and that is written in Mark 11:26!
This instruction is so important that it depends on it whether God will forgive you or not. Now, if you didn’t read this verse in your Bible, wow, you might have gone on with your lives without having your sin forgiven!
(Please don’t miss my full blog about this topic, Why God will not Forgive Your Sin.)
Let examine another way the NIV changed Christ’s teaching. Turn to Matthew 20:16:
NIV – “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”
NKJV – So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.”
This is a vital teaching of Christ that the NIV freely destroyed! Christ is teaching us that it is not enough to be called. There are Christians who are called by God and yet, they were not chosen. It means that they have disqualified themselves along the way of their Christian race.
Let’s consider another verse found in Mark 6:11:
NIV – And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, leave that place and shake the dust off your feet as a testimony against them.
NKJV – And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!”
NIV took away the latter part of Mark 6:11. Again, Christ is teaching us here that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah, though they were wicked, would be given a chance for them to learn God’s way of life at the time of the second resurrection.
This is a proof of God’s tremendous mercy and His willingness to extend salvation to as many people as possible. The Bible actually doesn’t teach that if you die without knowing God, you will immediately go to hell. Far be it!
(To learn more about this vital topic, please read my blog entitled, “5 Surprising Biblical Proofs that God won’t burn people forever in Hell.)
I’ll share with you other verses that alter Christ’s teaching. I won’t be discussing them anymore as they are self-explanatory. Read how the NIV molested and perverted Christ’s teaching by omitting and altering His words.
You’ll be the judge!
NIV – MISSING
NKJV – Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.
NIV – The disciples were amazed at his words. But Jesus said again, “Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!”
NKJV – And the disciples were astonished at His words. But Jesus answered again and said to them, “Children, how hard it is for those WHO TRUST IN RICHES to enter the kingdom of God!”
NIV – Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’”
NKJV – But Jesus answered him, saying, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.’”
NIV – MISSING
NKJV – If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!”
Reason no. 9: NIV altered Christ’s Model Prayer
The Disciples asked Jesus Christ to teach them how to pray. Thus, we now have the Model Prayer written in our Bible. However, this did not escape NIV’s alteration of God’s word. We see the difference between the two translations.
NIV – He said to them, “When you pray, say: “‘Father, hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come.’”
NKJV – So He said to them, “When you pray, say: Our Father in heaven, hallowed be Your name. Your kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
NIV – And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.’
NKJV – And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
Reason no. 10: NIV deleted Messianic prophecies
The Messianic prophecies are very important since they show us the divinity and veracity of Bible. Through the Messianic prophecies, we see how the prophecies concerning our Savior was fulfilled to the letter!
Again, it is sad to see how NIV deleted some of these verses that could have boosted more the faith of Christians. Notice the following alterations:
NIV – MISSING
NKJV – So the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “And He was numbered with the transgressors.”
NIV – When they had crucified him, they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
NKJV – Then they crucified Him, and divided His garments, casting lots, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet: “They divided My garments among them, and for My clothing they cast lots.”
Reason no. 11: NIV added words to support unbiblical teachings
We have seen how NIV deleted words in the Bible. However, there are also instances that it added words or comments, implying as if it is part of the original text.
One good example is Mark 7:19. We read:
NIV – For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
NKJV – because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?”
This is a favorite scripture of Christians who believe that the Food Law of God has already been done away with. They use this scripture to justify eating shrimp, pork, horse, rat, rabbit, snakes, and other meats that God considers unclean.
The problem with NIV is that they added this commentary to Mark 7:19 to make it look like it is a part of the original text. But is this really the case?
If you read the whole context, Christ isn’t talking about clean and unclean meats but the purification rites of the Pharisees. If Christ is saying that we can already eat all manners of meat then He is contradicting other clear scriptures that prove the food law is still binding.
Moreover, we don’t see Jesus, the Disciples, or early New Testament Christians eating pork or any unclean meat. The Bible has been consistent when it comes to designating meat which is fit for human consumption.
I know this is a huge topic so please take time to read the following articles:
- Did Jesus Declare All Meats Clean?
- 5 Scriptures that Prove God’s Food Laws are Still Binding
- 5 Compelling Reasons You Should Also Observe God’s Food Law
Reason no. 12: Confusing footnotes
If you are a new convert, how would you feel if the Bible you are reading has confusing footnotes? For example, in Acts 7:46, the footnote reads: “Some early manuscripts read the house of Jacob.” That’s the footnote for the word, “the God of Jacob.”
Now, that’s a substantial difference. This is not the only footnote that can sow the seed of doubt in the heart of a new convert. With so many footnotes that contradict each other, do you think that it promotes confidence and faith in the Holy Scripture?
Being a Christian is hard enough, but adding the challenge of reconciling conflicting statements in the Bible makes the Christian race even TOUGHER!
Let me give you another example. Read Matthew 16:18, which reads, “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church.”
Obviously, the Rock here is Christ. He is the foundation of the Church. Peter means small rock or stone. Christ can’t possibly build His Church on Peter. However, we read the footnote of NIV, “Peter means rock.” Without any explanation, it is implying that Peter is that rock which Christ will build His Church upon!
This is a disgraceful footnote used to support the claim of the Universal Church that they have the only right of the Christian faith.
Please read the footnotes of Mark 1:1, John 10:29, Acts 20:28, I Corinthians 16:24, John 7:8, Luke 23:34, John 10:9, Romans 9:5, and Mark 15:39. All these footnotes will surely send your mind swirling in doubt and confusion.
This is just a summary of the reasons why you should not use NIV as your Bible. While it is true that NIV wants to make the Bible easy to read and understand, it is not an excuse to desecrate the Word of God!
The New International Version or NIV is truly a poor translation. It takes away key truths from the Bible and casts doubts in the mind of readers.
It is of great concern to me how many Christians, church leaders, ministers, and pastors are INDIFFERENT to this issue. Some would even recommend NIV as their main Bible translation.
At this point, let me just make it very clear. There’s no perfect Bible translation, but there’s only the perfect Word of God written in its original form. Even the King James and New King James Version aren’t 100% accurate. There are certain words that could have been translated in a better way. Nevertheless, it is a way better translation than the NIV.
Now that I have shown you the 12 reasons (and I’m sure these are not the only reasons) why you should not use NIV, would you still choose to deliberately turn a blind eye and still promote NIV as a great Bible translation?
It is up to you. But as for me, I made a choice to never use nor promote this blasphemous Bible translation. While you might have seen me using NIV in the past, it is with the biggest regret. So, if you see any NIV translations in this blog, let me know as I will swiftly change them.
The Word of God is pure. Man may pervert and corrupt it, but Yahshua or Jesus Christ, Himself said, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away“ (Mark 13:31).
With that being said, may we all have the courage, zeal, and motivation to seek the true, genuine, and unspotted Word of God!
189 thoughts on “12 Unspoken Reasons Why You Should Not Use the New International Version (NIV) Bible”
Thank you. Helpful and insightful.
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The missing verses are not in the original manuscripts. Things were added by scribes in some cases too.
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Absolutely the NIV did not delete anything. It was translated from older and more accurate manuscripts, that did not have all those uninspired verses. Satan knows, this perhaps that is why he raised up this false teacher. The way he has the KJV only cult. With deceivers like, Gail Riplinger, Sam Gipp, Will Kinney for example.
Joshua, thanks for the powerful and condensed reasons concerning the errors of the NIV. May more readers (especially those occupying Christian leadership and teaching positions), be properly informed and educated on this very important matter. With all its errors, there is one thing the NIV should NEVER EVER be used for–to establish or support doctrinal teaching!
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This was good for highlighting the weakness of the NIV. Though you used the NKJV as the authority.
The NKJV is just as bad unfortunately.
God warns us not to change His word.
NKJV is a wolf in sheeps clothing, that is very obvious.
Thanks for your comment.
I agree that NKJV isn’t a perfect translation and there’s really no perfect translation today. However, I would respectfully disagree when you said that NKJV is as bad as NIV. NKJV is a way better translation.
Thank you for your thoughts. Yet your comment troubled me:
‘there’s really no perfect translation today’
Are you calling God a liar?
Is Psalm 12:7 a promise that God would preserve his words?
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. 7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. (Psalm 12:6-7, KJV)
I’m sorry for the late reply. It seems that WordPress didn’t notify me when you replied.
Regarding your comment, Yes, there’s no perfect translation today, but that doesn’t mean I’m calling God a liar. Let me make this very clear, God’s Word is perfect. The Bible or the Scripture in its original version is perfect. The problem is that we don’t have any original writings of the Scripture anymore.
However, does that mean we can’t trust modern translations anymore? I would say no. We can still trust word for word and literal translations of the Bible. I strongly believe that God has preserved His word in such a way that the translations are enough for salvation. There might be minor mistranslations, but they are not a salvation issue.
I hope my reply is clear. If you have further questions, please let me know.
If it is corrupted, why are you comparing corruption to corruption. Your whole argument is counterintuitive. If you have studied Greek, you know that not all the words are known and some of the meanings are unknown. Thus, the translators draw the meaning of the word from context. When you talked about the different words used to describe something in the verse, you were UPHOLDING YOUR example that you preferred above the other examples. Of course, certain translations TRANSLATE (because that is what they do) the same words slightly differently (different connotations), but when you say one is right and one is wrong like that when no one really knows the meaning, you are holding things up to YOUR standard. This is why when you do do a Bible study, you ought to use multiple translations. When you talk of the NIV adding words, what is it for you to say (unless you have studied the passages in Greek, then I tip my hat) what is it to say that the NKJV is not adding them, or when NIV “minimalizes” that NKJV is not exaggerating.
A final Point. Romans 14
“Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean.”
The end part of the verse disproves one of your claims. “It says All food is clean”
Anyways, you are disrupting the work of God with this “food” called translation. This is the same thing you did in your article on Horror Movies and Christians some years ago. Please Read Romans 14 and think on it. There is something called the Tyranny of the Lesser Brother and I feel it present.
The main point of my article is not about the slight translation of each words in the Bible. My main point is that the NIV is based on a corrupt manuscript.
Where do you read that all food is clean in Romans 14?
Romans 14:20 it says “For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.” KJV to keep you happy
” Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats.”
” Do not tear down the work of God for the sake of food. All things indeed are clean, but they are evil for the person who eats and causes offense.”
“Overthrow not for meat’s sake the work of God. All things indeed are clean; howbeit it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.”
Whatever, NIV is the one that says that all food is clean, but the other translations talk of an even broader scope. And what do you mean that the NIV is based off a corrupt manuscript; you don’t even talk about manuscript issues.
Thanks for your reply.
Romans 14 is indeed one of the most common chapters people use to justify the eating of unclean food.
However, if you’re going to read through the words of this chapter, it is talking about meat offered to idols. Paul wasn’t saying that we can all what we want to eat.
Imagine, if people understand “Everything is indeed clean” as a way to ignore the food laws of God, so does that mean that you can now eat rat? Cockroaches, worms, deadly serpents, and other poisonous creatures or plants? That’s completely stupid if you are willing to admit it.
The main point of Paul was that eating food sacrificed to idols are still considered clean because idols are nothing.
Nope, I agree with your 3rd section, but the main point of the passage is not about meat sacrificed to idols, it is more about things some people’s conscience convict them of while others’ conscience do not.
The symbol on the front of the nkjv should be enough of a red flag to not read from it – it’s a pagan symbol.
As well – God’s Word isn’t a “version” – it is God’s Word – it’s not a version of anything.
Are you referring to the cross symbol? I believe it shouldn’t be used as an emblem or sign for Christians.
Yes, you’re right. God’s word is God’s word. There’s no different version of it.
I prefer the AV/KJV to the NKJV, but the NKJV is still a very good translation compared to the NIV and others; and even the NIV is a lot better than some.
Thanks for your comment, Revrobertwest. I believe each Bible translation has its weaknesses and strengths. It is up to us to weigh and compare each of them to get the best understanding.
Interesting statement. Why did you not substantiate it?
I have 2 bibles king James and NIV I’ve just started to study the bible, my sister in law told me throw the NIV bible out, iam going to hell, I was horrified she would say such a thing to mr
I don’t think your sister is in the position to say who is going to be saved or not. It’s only Yahshua (Jesus) who judges, not your sister. However, I would beseech you to do more research and prove all things.
That is the cult of KJV onlyism. A false teaching by false teachers. I praise God for the NIV.
I don’t agree with KJV only.
That is the satanic KJV only cult for you. Personally I love the NIV. It is very clear on the virgin birth. Joseph of course was the adopted father of Jesus. Even in the KJV Luke Ch 2. It refers to the parents of Jesus. Mary also calls Joseph the father of Jesus. Is she denying the virgin birth? Of course not. But according to the loopy logic of the KJV only cult she would be. Strange the KJV only cult never point that out. But they are a bunch of hypocrites. The NIV is strong on the deity of Christ than the KJV . Does not call the Holy Spirit an it, like the KJV does. The KJV was translated from manuscripts dedicated to the Pope,. Corrupted manuscript with added uninspired verses, like 1 John 5 v 7, Acts 8 v 37. The Catholic influence on the KJV is strong. So you have mistranslations like Easter instead of Passover. Lucifer a Latin word for the planet Venus, meaning “morning star”. The idea that the NIV is translated from corrupted manuscripts is bogus. A lie from the KJV only cult. Deceitful workers and KJV only cultist. Like Gail Riplinger, Sam Gipp Will Kinney, anything from Chicktracts. All promote this lie. Nothing wrong with worshiping on a Sunday. Indeed the scripture teaches that those who esteem one day over another is a weaker brother or sister. It is just plain legalism masquerading as walking in the spirit. Also the KJV only cult was started by a Seventh Day Adventist cultist. A cult that began with a false prophecy. A cult that has false prophet Ellen G White. God is using and blessing the NIV to bring many to Christ. There is absolutely not one good reason not to read the NIV not one. The author of this article is just another false teacher.
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The KJV isn’t a perfect translation as well. It has errors like the ones you pointed out. Thus, personally, I don’t but into the KJV-only doctrine.
That is what happens when people fall for the idolatrous blasphemous witchcraft called KJV onlyism. God has used and is using the NIV to bring many to Christ. I have not heard one good reason not to use it. Certainly not the 12 straw man reasons given here.
I just wonder why you think people who are against NIV believe in the use of KJV only? It just bewildered me why people assume that. I absolutely don’t believe that KJV or the NKJV is a perfect translation.
Having recently come from a KJV only mindset I found your NIV arguments a bit weak. There was no comparison of the oldest manuscripts to the NIV-only the NKJV. I’m not sure why you hold the NKJV as the standard. The reason for the “missing” verses of the NIV is not because some evil translator wanted to change the Bible but rather because the manuscripts the NIV are based on don’t contain them. An NIV supporter could just as easily call out the NKJV for adding to the Word of God.
Let me give you two examples of where liberties were taken with the KJV and ultimately the NKJV. No manuscripts support the word church. Typically the Greek supported “called out ones” or “assembly”. When the KJV translators wanted to use the more accurate words the Arch Bishop went to King James and told him that it would undermine the Church of England if the word “church” was not used. Secondly the man responsible for compiling the Greek manuscript that the KJV & NKJV is based could not get a hold of ancient manuscripts for the book of Revelation so he travelled to Denmark to a library where he assembled Revelation from a commentary.
I will agree NIV is not as accurate as other translations because they go more on a thought for thought and modernizing sayings basis. But it’s not inaccurate just because it does not match the NKJV.
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Thanks for getting in touch.
I agree that the NKJV or KJV isn’t perfect translations. Like you pointed out, there are words that could have been translated better.
However, to use NIV and rely your salvation on it can be a fatal mistake. Moreover, there are internal evidence that NIV isn’t a good translation to base doctrines. One good example is Mark 7:19 where a commentary was added to the text to make it look like it is part of the original text.
I think that sometimes the NIV tries to simplify too much and that its more of a paraphrase than a translation but I don’t know of any essential doctrines it’s missing. Also if you look at your point #3 above. The NKJV translates the same Hebrew word other places in the OT as “old” rather than “everlasting”. “Old” seems to be an acceptable translation of the Hebrew. Now there are plenty of places that show that Christ has always existed and is a part of the trinity. The doctrine does not hinge on Micah 5:2 alone. Coming from KJV Only background I used to accept any argument that appeared to make any other translation weak. Trust me the KJV only crow have many similar arguments for your NKJV. They’re preference is burning NIV’s but they don’t mind torching an occasional NKJV as well.
Hi Joshua. Have you ever studied textuual criticism?
Amen! Thanks, Anthony . Now I need’nt type everything you just said! It gripes me that things are said out of ignorance within our Christian community. A lost world is not being helped by our petty, baseless feuding.
Agree on this.
Both translations, and nearly all others, have replaced YAHWEH’s sacred name with LORD, a title that is traceable to the pagan goddess of bakery & to baal. They also do not use the true name of the Messiah—Yahshua. Instead, they prefer the corrupted Latinized Greek form (Jesus) that has no meaning whatsoever. As a result, they make people forget the names (many even dislike the names) of the Almighty and His Son. What about that?
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I agree with you. The sacred names of our Heavenly Father and Messiah have been changed.
Personally, I also use the Hebraic Roots Bible Translation where the sacred names were properly used in addition to the NKJV. As you would notice, it is up to us to seek the truth as well and apply them whenever necessary.
In my blog, I still use Jesus but also mention Yahshua when referring to our Messiah. Since my general audience don’t know yet the name Yahshua, I would use a name that they are familiar with and I believe God doesn’t condemn us for that. However, when I’m with like-minded people, I use Yahshua and Yahweh.
I believe everyone has their own level of understanding and conversion. God would deal with us accordingly.
That’s what I think Israel. 🙂
I just found your site today. My husband and I have been lay missionaries for 12 years in Northern Luzon, made 14 trips there to teach and preach in many remote areas, esp. In Hawaii we also work in a Filipino church as well as Chinese church.
One glaring verse that is missing in your ‘list’ is 2 Tim 2:15 where the KJV says STUDY to show yourself approved unto God…., the NIV says ‘DO YOUR BEST to present yourself yourself to God as one approved, … There is a great difference in STUDY which focuses on God’s Word and DO YOUR BEST which focuses on one’s works, don’t you agree? Exactly what does ‘Do your best’ mean? It is clear about STUDY however, because the scripture refers to studying the Bible to learn about God’s nature, His expectations/standards for righteous living, etc. You can read about our mission trips on the side bar of ‘God’s Enduring Love’ http://heulu.wordpress.com
FB public group ‘Sounding the Shofar’. I welcome your comments there to encourage brethren in Luzon and elsewhere.
God bless you more! \o/
Thanks for getting in touch. It is nice to hear that you have been in the Philippines for a long time doing the work of God.
You have a very nice website. I hope you guys are safe from the volcanic eruptions there in Hawaii. And thanks for the additional insight that you shared about the NIV.
Let’s stay in touch.
Thanks Joshua for your contributions. You are talented. The God of Y’srael can use you more mightily.
Will include you in our prayers.
Pls email me at:
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I am clearly not a Bible expert, but am committed to strengthening myself in the Word of Christ. I have heard complaints of the NIV before, to the degree there are 681 verses not included in the NIV but I don’t know as compared to what, the KJV? I just read an article about missing verses and the reason for the difference between the KJV and the newer versions is because the newer versions are based on older manuscripts which were found since the publication of the KJV and the manuscripts the KJV is based off of did not have them. The newer Bible trusted the older manuscripts for constructiveness.
I did not look up every discrepancy you chose in regards to the words used in a verse; however, I did look up the NIV, the ESV and the NASB and they all use the same words. As regards to words, I trust the ESV and the NASB more than the NIV for more precise word translation, but in the two or three examples you used, these three were all in agreement.
It begins to me to feel as though you have a bigger axe to grind than this version of the Bible. I’ve owned it for almost 10 years and have never read a verse that has lead me away from Jesus or God. God Bless!
BTW, at one time, I looked up to see if other Bible Translations had verses removed and virtually, everyone had some. I believe it is because of the reason I mentioned, the newer translated version are based on older manuscripts.
Thanks for dropping by. 🙂
Yes, one of the reasons for the difference in translation is that the newer translations thought that the older manuscripts are more accurate. However, it does not mean that the older the manuscripts are, the more accurate they are. We need to realize that the majority of the true copies have been burned and destroyed because of man’s natural hostility to God.
Reading the NIV alone deprives you of discovering other greater truths, truths that have been hidden in the pages of the NIV.
Can’t believe this is the version of the bible my church gives out and recommends. Thanks for shedding light on this, i will bring this up with my friends. God bless you.
Ps please excuse the contradictory email name, i am ex-Transgender, thank God i saw the light.
The NIV can still be useful in some ways since it gives a clearer translation. However, personally, I would still believe that the cons outweigh the pros when it comes to NIV. Most importantly, never use NIV for establishing doctrine since it lacks a lot of verses.
I’m interested in knowing more about you. If you have time, please email me, firstname.lastname@example.org. I tried to look for your email. I can’t find it.
I’ve seen the same complaints about the KJV, being that it did not have the amount of expertise and as mentioned the older manuscripts. I believe we should not be snooty about the version, but support each other in our relationship with Christ. I’d rather my friends/children – anyone to ready any level of depth of a Bible to get to know Christ than not at all to delve into the relationship. God Bless.
I respect your stand, ChristDisiple. But as for me, I believe that one of the best ways to support each other in our relationship with Christ is to know the truth.
Yes, it is true that KJV isn’t perfect as well. It has a few mistranslation. However, KJV is a more reliable Bible translation than NIV where a lot of verses have been lost.
God bless as well. 🙂
Sorry you feel the need to judge based on version, which leads me to believe my NIV. ESV And NASB do not say to separate yourself based on version of the Bible. A good reason to reevaluate your arrogance on version choice. Version choice does not make you closers to God than me, nor have a better relationship with Jesus. I’ve seen plenty of website pointing out the errors in the KJV. Oh, who said you have the rule on truth? It’s too bad. In my opinion you cannot put aside what seems like arrogance to form a stronger brotherhood with me. Your brother in Christ. God Bless you!
I’m sorry if you felt that my response is arrogant though I tried to keep my response as respectful and humble as possible.
The purpose of my blog is to point out errors in translation. It is up to you if you believe them or not. I respect your decision and your opinion. And I don’t have the rule of truth. God has the final say which is true or not and I try my best to stick to the scripture in the best of my ability. If I have said something that’s not true, then I’ll be more than willing to correct myself.
Let’s just agree to disagree. I know, as two people who do their best to please God, we have more things in common than our differences. I know you’re a good person based on your zeal in getting close to God. Peace and blessings be with you.
Hi Joshua. Please share list of doctrines that NIV translation distorts
Why? Do some research,no need to stop reading the NIV.
God’s word is immutable, and unchangeable, though the type of translation (all translations are inherently flawed and imperfect) matters. It depends on the audience and whether a person is wanting to get the “idea” or wants to know the literal translation of the words, barring any subtle context and cultural clues inherent in any “living” language. Meanings change in living languages but remain steady in “dead” languages like Latin…though I’m sure when they were commonly spoken they changed from one generation to another, just like English does today. Also, there can be various meanings (either implied, direct, or a subtle “hint” at something deeper). Though I definitely don’t ascribe to islam…not one bit!… the idea they have where everyone should learn to read the text in Arabic makes a lot of sense. A better understanding, free of translation error is more likely to occur. I suppose the same could be said for our sacred scriptural texts. We’d be better off in our knowledge of Christ’s Word, His cultural heritage and social context of what he said and any implied meaning behind the words (reading between the lines, so to speak) if we could speak, read, and write in ancient Greek, ancient Hebrew, and Aramaic that depending on translations that risk missing some important nuances that get lost in translation.
I know you are VERY passionate and knowledgeable (and ever growing and learning) about God’s Word. I also know from previous conversations that you have quite a few references to pull from. Don’t take my word or any one individual’s words when it comes to scriptural knowledge. Absolutely follow the guidance of the Ruach Ha Kodesh (Holy Spirit), as I know you do your best to do. We are all in this together as we walk with God individually. WE are supposed to build each other up in God’s word and knowledge of Him and His son Yahusha Ha Mashiach (Jesus Christ). I pray that what I have written to you rings true and that my words have been guided by Yahuah (God).
Thanks for your comment. I was definitely inspired by your message in the last paragraph.
I hope we can talk more. If you have time, please give me your email or you can email me at email@example.com.
Hope to hear from you. 🙂
Every verse you took issue with is translated virtually identically in the NASB and ESV translations. The NASB is even more literal than the NKJV! This is all just King James Only propaganda. The fact is that the NIV is created from better manuscripts compared to the KJV. There’s a reason why most people who study textual criticism are not King James Onlyists… Most KJV Only folks grew up in tiny, Independent Baptist churches who believe that no one who is in another denomination is saved. Thank God that they’re a small minority of fringe churches!
Thanks for your comment.
I’m not a KJV onlyists as you would like to call it.
May I know how you were able to say that the NIV was based on better manuscripts?
New World Order = anti christ
New international (another word for world) version = anti christ.
Rubbish, typical KJV only cultic ignorance.
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NIV Neel inspired version
I have found problems in the NIV version concerning them adding words and changing the meaning of important scriptures. Two places in 1st Corinthians chapter 6:12 and 1st Corinthians 10:23. The KJV writes about Paul’s freedom in the Lord and the NIV version changes the meaning referring to the Corinthians saying by adding the words “you say”. That to me refers to two different meanings. Another important is in Psalms 91: The KJV says “He who dwells in the “secret place of the most high…” The NIV says “shelter” instead of the secret place of the most High. That makes a big difference when our only access is only through Jesus as we know now. It was a secret before Jesus was known to the public.
Hi Darrell! Thanks for your comment. Thanks for pointing out those verses. I wasn’t aware that those verses were also changed in NIV.
Go to now the end begins website. he will show you why King James Bible is the only Bible you can trust
I would disagree with you in that, Trent. The King James Bible comes with various errors as well. Though I would say it is more accurate than most Bible translations today.
“ However, to use NIV and rely your salvation on it can be a fatal mistake. “
You don’t base your salvation on the Bible you use. That is a clear mistake on your part. Faith in Jesus Christ alone brings salvation. The Holy Spirit guides all to truth.
The NIV is a decent translation that people can trust in with their walk in Christ.
Thanks for your comment.
I, in any way, teach that salvation is through your works. If you have been reading my blogs, you know where I’m coming from.
Salvation only comes from God made possible through the sacrifice of Yahshua or Jesus Christ.
Wow, you’ve sited a number of things that are concerning. You’ve made some statements that need challenging.
1. The KJV or NKJV Bibles are not the measuring stick for good or bad translations – the oldest available manuscripts are. Much of what you’ve sited as missing verses are verses missing in the most trusted english translations we have today – the CEV, CSB, ESV, GNB, HCSB, NET, NLT, etc. These are missing because they’re missing in the oldest manuscripts. We have rediscovered THOUSANDS, including dozens earlier and more reliable than what the KJV translators had access to.
2. The number of words in the NIV versus the KJV is of no consequence. The question simply is whether the text has been properly translated from the original to today.
3. You’ve made no distinction between NIV translations. There is a significant difference between the NIV published in 1978 and the NIV Revision from 2005.
4. In dozens of oldest and most reliable manuscripts the greek word ‘aetos’ is used in Rev. 8:13, which means “eagle.” this is the more accurate translation.
5. Revelation 13:1 Again, “the dragon that stood on the shore of the sea”, is in the oldest manuscripts. The NIV also have a footnote stating that some later manuscripts use “I”.
I could go on and on here. In wanting to direct people to better translations, I’d encourage greater caution and maybe do a little more homework beforehand. I’d encourage you to read Dave Brunn’s ‘One Bible, Many Versions’. An excellent read…..
Thanks for your comment.
We need to be careful in saying that the oldest manuscripts are the most reliable sources.
It doesn’t mean they are the oldest, doesn’t mean they are they are the most accurate.
There are manuscripts that have not been used too much and that’s why they stand the test of time. Why they are not used too much? Because they contain errors. Because of the difficulty of transcribing the Scripture, some people don’t like to throw away their copies and keep them.
The basis of the New King James are based on thousands of manuscripts. You can’t simply ignore the massive number of these manuscripts with little variations to be all false, right?
Thanks for the book recommendations. Will check it out. If you have a soft copy, I’ll love you to share it with me. 🙂
I am not religious although I would like to be. But I am very aware that Christianity created the society I live in. It’s through Christian belief that we created the best places on the planet. It influences law, culture, relationships everything. And I got a letter in the post saying “his sacrifice promises all of us one government ruling over the earth that will release us from heartache, famine, disease, death and war. Isaiah 65:21-24. I was shocked as I am definitely no religious expert but I knew the Bible would never imply anything towards globalism and communism. These horrible things have only ended in billions of deaths. This new translation is very dangerous it allows people to twist the word of God to suite there political goals.
Thanks for your comment, Storm. Feel free to ask me if you have any questions.
It is not about being religious, it is about knowing Christ and that you can do. (And you should)
And the Bible does imply globalism. Since God made the whole earth, would he not have the right to rule it by himself. And the reason that there was destruction and death in one world governments IS because of the sinfulness of man. When God’s kingdom comes he will transform those who know him and trust in him (which I hope you will) and it will be like what he intended: God ruling with is co-ruling with him. It will be perfect and thus made by “his sacrifice” which will release humanity from the rest of the verse.
I was given a NIV bible way back when. Then I read an article like yours, got rid of it and bought a KJV bible. Also have a big beautiful 1956 KJV with color illustrations. Speaking for myself, if it isn’t KJV, it is not for me. God bless, and have a wonderful day.
Thanks for your comment. Actually, there’s really no perfect Bible translation of the Word of God in its original written form, that’s the perfect one. Personally, I use NKJV, LEV, and Hebraic Roots Bible translations.
You need to really do your homework before attacking scripture.
And btw why would you only include “just some minor things” in your argument to persuade people to condemn a version of The Bible?
I’ll be writing more about this topic in the future. For now, let me tell you that NIV and other similar modern translations are based on the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus. These sources aren’t really the best references you want to base your Bible translation.
I find it disturbing that Christians cherry pick verses to align with cultural teachings rather than Biblical teachings. The Old Testament is the foundation of God’s word, period. And in the Old Testament, God reveals who He is. Read Number 23:19.
Jesus is the Son of Man, NOT God. And you are committing idolatry. You are supposed to repent to GOD, not Jesus– repent to the Creator, not the created. Jesus is not God, and the sooner people actually realize this through prayer and reading the Bible, the better.
What a great way to divide the Church! The enemy is jumping for joy at the division you are creating.
Only the most unintelligent of people would draw the conclusions that you drew with this atrocity.
The Bible was written in three languages…none of them were English. If you want to actually study the Word, read the original translation.
Just because I’m telling the truth I’m dividing the Church? Well, guess who will divide the people during the judgment day? It would be God. He will separate the sheep from the goat.
Truth can hurt and offend people, but it should be said. Most modern Bible translations now such as the NIV are based on corrupted manuscripts, the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus text. Don’t think that all manuscripts are the same.
You sound like those in America who say the it is WHITE MAN’s problem that there is racism. Again read Romans 14. “Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food.”
I’m not sure what you mean.
By that I mean that you are dividing the Church of God over the sake of food. Over the sake of a mere label. By certain potentially bad components of a label, the whole group is corrupted and evil.
The truth of God will divide the people. In the Bible, we see how the Savior will divide the goats from the sheep. Food laws are an important aspect of God’s commandments. It is not there to limit our freedom but to help us stay healthy by choosing the right type of food.
God may divide the people, but he will not divide His Church
But you are not telling the truth. The NIV is much more accurate than the KJV. You have not given one good reason not to read the NIV.
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He is making me think, wanting to study the Bible more. Perhaps to personalities like yours it’s ‘creating divison’.
Christ said in Luke 12:51:
Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:
When people are divided, I hope we find ourselves on the right side. Praying for God’s ultimate guidance for everyone of us.
Hello Brother Joshua,
to be fair, some of the passages present in the KJV and that you claim are absent from the NIV translation are indeed MISSING in the original greek manuscripts!
eg: Reason no. 1: Missing verses
“repentance” missing in NIV Mat 9:13. Check the greek manuscript at “https://biblehub.com/interlinear/matthew/9.htm”, and you will see “repentance” is indeed missing in the greek manuscript.
eg: Reason no. 2: NIV contradicts other Bible translations
Revelation 8:13 – an angel (NKJV); an eagle (NIV) – so which is which? Is it an angel or an eagle?
Check “https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/8.htm”, and you will see it’s indeed an eagle (= aetou) in the greek, as corrected translated by NIV.
Ephesians 5:9 – for the fruit the spirit (NKJV); for the fruit of the light (NIV).
Check the greek in “https://biblehub.com/interlinear/ephesians/5.htm”, and you will see that the greek states “fruit of the light” (karpos tou photos) as NIV does.
Luke 4:44 – synagogues of Galilee (NKJV); synagogues of Judea (NIV).
Check the greek in “https://biblehub.com/interlinear/luke/4.htm”, and you will see that this is the NIV which is correct, with “synagogues of Judea” (synagogas tes Ioudaias).
OK, I will stop here since many other examples you give are not convincing neither when looking at the original greek manuscript. I encourage you to look at all the verses you cited and make your own conclusions.
Being french, I am a bit “neutral” in the discussion since I read the Bible with other french versions (and always checking for the greek original wording). I do acknowledge KJV is generally an excellent traduction, but let’s not be too excessive with other translations neither (I wouldn’t call the NIV “terrifying” or “corrupt”).
With kind salutations in our Lord Jesus Christ,
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Thanks for your comment! 🙂
I could see that you’re sincere in your message, however, Biblehub isn’t really the authority in this regard. You see, Biblehub based their interlinear translation on corrupted Manuscript. It’s actually a mixture.
From the book, “Which Bible Would Jesus Use?”:
The following texts were assembled and propagated in the late 19th–20th centuries by substituting the variant readings of Vaticanus and Sinaiticus (and a few other manuscripts) into the Traditional Text base.
Westcott & Hort text
Critical text Nestle-Aland Text UBS4 (United Bible Societies)
NU text (combination of Nestle’s and UBS4)
These texts are at the heart of the New Testaments of almost all modern 2001 ESV, 1960/1994 NASB, NLT, etc.).
Sadly, Biblehub used the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus in their Interlinear translation.
So, by your standards, what is your authoritative manuscript and bible source. Is blue letter bible good for you? E-sword?
Is a greek new testament ok, or is it not the right manuscript you like?
Also, what does your etc refer to?
Does it include everything but NKJV and KJV ?????
My belief has always been that the Scripture in its original written form is the inspired Word of Yahweh.
Sadly, there have been a lot of corruption in the Bible which we can identify when it goes against the clear teachings of God.
I do use E-Sword for reference. Greek NT is also good, but I prefer the Aramaic NT version.
NKJV and KJV aren’t perfect bible translations. There are a few verses that have been corrupted as well.
I prefer bibles that use the Hebrew Masoretic Text as the basis for their Old Testament translation and the Greek Textus Receptus for the NT.
If you have time, I would like to talk about this article. I have a couple questions. Please email me.
Sure! You can email me at Joshuainfantado@gmail.com. I’m afraid I don’t have your email.
what are your are your Biblical credentials?
What do you mean by biblical credentials? Do you mean my educational background?
Obviously you do not know your Greek. The NIV does not have missing verses. Earlier transcripts did not have those verses. The translations of the NKJV has words added for emphasis and effect. The Greek texts to NIV is accurate and acceptable in many cases. However, the NIV does seem to diminish Christ’s divinity and commits itself to Arianism. NKJV however added words that are not in the Greek texts.
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We need to stop believing the lie that the oldest manuscript that we have is the most reliable and trustworthy. The sinaiticus and vaticanus survived simply because they weren’t used that much and they are a reject copy.
We need to stop believing a lie that we can pick the manuscripts we like and toss others out for the sake of an English translation label.
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Since when has the oldest not being trustworthy been a lie? Is because they don’t agree with your theology?
Also another misleading passage is the story of the unforgiving debtor. Matthew 18:22
Matthew 17:21 the footage so where the same verses can been seen. For Matthew 17:21 it is missing but you can find in Mark 9:29
So you quote Jesus saying he came to divide……yet Peter and Paul advise us to be united? As with anything in scripture it is God breathed and useful for teaching. We are to have conversations about these things and yes even share if we see something wrong. I would suggest no condemnation of either text is required as both will have wonderful and truthful words from God and Jesus for us to discuss and grow in. If anything i’ve read on here currently it’s that I should jump into another version also and to have healthy conversations about these things. At the end of each day we all are alone in our own belief and the spirit will condem us of our sin as we lean in more closely to Christ Jesus. My prayer is that we hold each others up as brothers and sisters in Christ.
I believe God works with each of us individually. As for me, the NIV might be a helpful translation in some verses but I won’t depend on it when it comes to doctrinal topics.
This article is disingenuous. Just because the NIV does say created through “Jesus Christ” does not mean that the NIV denies Christ’s creatorship. Other verses in scripture confirm this clearly. Saying the NIV denies this is an outright lie or you really do not understand the things you assert. The whole reason it isn’t in there is because the scholars think a scribe put it in to clarify rather than it being in the specific verse text because throughout scripture in any translation of the Bible the deity of Christ is upheld and his “creatorship” Also you need the re-read Rev 13:1 in each translation…… just a brief few divisive and ignorant of the scriptures comparisons I picked up on as I tried to read the article but couldn’t finish because of this. Last problem is the bias you have for the Byzantine text compared to the Alexandrian. Rather than try to divide and call Gods word the one you like, why don’t you look at the overwhelming unity of both family’s of manuscript and straining at a gnat while swallowing a camel?
Thanks for your comment.
I’m not being divisive, but rather, I’m just talking about something that most people don’t know. Open your eyes to how Satan corrupted the Bible instead of defending a lie that is blatantly found in the NIV.
You’re completely wrong, the NIV can be the best version seconded by the NLT, compare John 7:52-8:1-11 with the original manuscript, the original manuscript always matches the NIV, I’ve read many passages in the NIV, NLT and KJV and found the KJV less reliable, so what you’re saying here are only sourced from conspiracy theories.
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May I know which manuscript are you referring to as the original?
This article reminds me of when Jesus had finished up his 40 day fast. Satan appeared to him and said “If you are the Son of God”…Satan’s first attack on Jesus was sowing doubt. The author of this article has done an excellent job of sowing doubt and then discord…all in a desperate attempt to make himself relevant. Any guesses on why every major study says the church is dying in America? People are no longer attending and churches are closing their doors in record numbers. Its because of articles like this that represent the self-righteous Christian who is driving out seekers of the one true God. I look forward to your “clapback”.
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Does this article make you doubt? It only means that your conscience is telling you that there might be something wrong with you believe right now.
Instead of seeing this article as a source of doubting, why not follow the instruction of the Apostle Paul to prove all things?
No doubt the NIV is a bad translation, and I would never recommend it being used. Dynamic translations are never good for study also, which the NIV is one of those dynamic versions. Jesus’s “parentage” though, is not that great of a argument. If one reads on in Luke, Joseph and Mary are switched back and forth between his “parents” Luke 2:48, and Joseph and his mother.
If we truly believe that God preserved his word, you can lead a person to Christ with virtually any translation. However, as a person grows in Christ with the power of the Spirit, I believe he will guide them to better translation to learn and grow. The bible version argument, is just never one I found to be a winner. I have read through and studied, many different versions. The NRSV, KJV, NKJV, HCSB, ESV, and NLT. You can get a clear presentation of the message of Christ with any of them. They lack consistency, and there are bunches of changed or missing verses to be sure. It is mainly in the New Testament. I have no doubt Satan wishes to cover the truth, and and blur the saving gospel of Christ…………but I also believe that God has overruled. Our Christ Jesus, the Word of God himself, God the Son, the Creator of all things, Saviour and Lord will have the final say! Even John Burgon himself, staunch defender of the textus receptus stated plainly that Westcott and Hort obscured no feature of divine truth, but rather left a hideous scar(I believe that is true). God over rules!
In humble heart and bended knee………in Chirst we’ll see the victory!
Thanks for your comment, Brian. I would definitely agree with you that God has the final say. He looks at our heart. Everyone of us is in different level of conversion. That’s why we are instructed to never stay in the same level of understanding, but to continue to grow in the knowledge and grace of our Savior Yahshua the Messiah.
Excellent presentation. I instinctively held to the King James and always had a mistrust of the NIV. The video and blog go a long way to explaining just why that is. The argument I often hear is that the manuscripts upon which most modern translations are based are older, and therefore more reliable manuscripts. But this false view makes God look like a doddering old man, incapable of getting the best manuscript to his Faithful from the very start. Must have misplaced the better manuscripts in His sock drawer!
My own belief is that the King James Bible translation was anointed by God. After 410 years it has not lost its authority. If people claim it is hard to understand, I respond to some of them “You’re going to be a missionary and learn a whole new foreign tongue; you’re going to tell me you can’t make the effort to learn what is little more than a dialect of your own language?”
One of the most telling examples of this assault on the Word of God is in the famous John 3:16. KayJay has it “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” The NIV, however renders it: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
Do they have a problem with Jesus being “begotten” of God? And “one and only son?” If my wife couldn’t have children and we decided to adopt a boy, he would be “my one and only son,” but he certainly would not be “begotten” of me!
Thanks for your comment Haakon. I’m glad that you have also realized how the NIV changed the word of God. Although, I would say that even KJV and NKJV have some errors in its translation. With this in mind, what I do is use other translations to confirm the correct translation. I personally use Literal English Version.
I agree with your statement, but this is why you don’t use only one translation. Use several when in Bible study.
I do use different translation to better understand specific verses.
I see where you wrote that the people of Sodom and Gomorrah will be given a chance at Christ’s second coming. And that far be it that those who die in sin immediately go to hell.
That is false. Mercy and repentance are granted in this life. Once someone dies without Christ, they go to hell. There is evidence in the Bible to this and so many testimonies of people experiencing it in the supernatural.
The Bible is clear. Even the people of Sodom and Gomorrah would be given their chance. This shows us the mercy of God. Do you think that God will simply forget the billions of people who live and die without knowing Him?
could you please give me a scripture reference for your claim.
I do not know what God will do, but Isaiah 55:9 says “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.”
If you’re asking about where in the Bible says about Sodom and Gomorrah being given a chance, it’s here:
20 Then He began to rebuke the cities in which most of His mighty works had been done, because they did not repent: 21 “Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22 But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you. 23 And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades; for if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day. 24 But I say to you that it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment than for you.”
The verse does not mean that the people will be given another change. It is not God’s duty to give them another chance. What the passage means is that the people of the town were so stiff-necked that IF the works that Jesus did were done in Sodom and Gomorrah, the people would have repented and the cities would still exist. The Bible clearly states that we have one chance for a choice between heaven and hell, and that is during our life on Earth. And the passage says nothing of having a chance, just a lessened, more tolerable punishment. I don’t know how it works, but I do know that we have one chance and God is not obliged to give us anymore or even let us keep our chance and that it’s in scripture.
But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
I know this is kind of difficult to understand because you most likely don’t observe God’s feastivals in Leviticus 23, which reveals God’s plan of salvation.
Nevertheless, let me just give you a quick explanation. After the millenial reign of Christ and His saints, the people who died and didn’t have a chance to know the truth would be given the chance to know God’s way of life.
That’s when the people of Sodom, Gomorrah, Sidon, and Tyre would be given a chance to finally know God’s truth.
There’s no second chance. We only have one chance. However, the people who lived and died who never heard of God’s truth didn’t have their chance yet even during their human life.
God is loving, merciful, and fair. Thankfully, these people are not forgotten. They will be given their only chance to salvation after the Millennial reign.
“In Hades he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Abraham far away and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried out and said, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame.’ But Abraham said, ‘Child, remember that during your life you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus bad things; but now he is being comforted here, and you are in agony. ‘And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.’” Luke 16:23-26 (NASB)
After death, when once in hell, forever in hell. Again, I do not understand, but God gave mankind free will and he is also a righteous and just God. Your point means that those who choose Christ after the Millennial reign go to heaven immediately after they die. Yes, God is loving, merciful, but NOT “fair.” He is equal and just, but not fair. If he was fair, everyone would go to heaven because everyone would have to go to heaven. All would have to have equal placement because everything must be “fair.” Fair is not just. And this conversation is diverging from the original argument. Why is your title “…never use the new international version” when you say later on it’s ok, just not for doctrinal issues. Why try for CLickBaiT
The story of the rich man Lazarus is an allegory, which is commonly known during Christ’s time. It’s not a proof that there’s immortal soul.
For more details, please read this article: https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/what-happens-after-death/lazarus-and-the-rich-man-proof-of-heaven-and-hell
You have the choice if you want to use the NIV. That’s your prerogative. But I won’t use it to base doctrinal studies.
UCG is un-Biblical. Why do you base your answer on an un-Biblical source
I don’t use NIV because it doesn’t use word for word translation, but what makes you believe there is no immortal soul? The Bible clearly says that man’s soul was made immortal. God did not make mankind with the breath of life to be thrown away.
The same question I also give, “Why do you base your answer on unbiblical source?” Gotquestions.org isn’t the gold standard of christianity. Where did you get the idea that the soul is immortal? The Bible clearly teaches us that the soul can die and it can be destroyed (ezekiel 18:4,20).
I am not saying that the site is the gold standard. I am taking the good content from it. I also refuted the argument of your topic. Here is another Bible verse Daniel 12:2 “Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.” The verses you used are taken out of context: they are talking of the human life on this world. Of course, God can always destroy souls, but it is not what he said he would do.
At least I read the stuff you use as your sources. You look at the source and say, I don’t like it, bye bye, instead of reading it and finding what it has to say.
Fun debating with you though, loved to do that 2 years ago when I was 12 with a friend until he moved away.
I don’t debate to anyone. If this is nothing but a debate to you, then let’s stop this. God works with each of us individually. What I’m thankful is at least you are zealous in the word of God. A lot of people can’t even be bothered about God’s word.
This is not just a debate, but it is a debate. Any time you reason with someone, it is a debate. You said it yourself; God works individually, but you are condemning (by your title) those who use NIV. This thread is about whether the people of Sodom and Gomorrah go to hell or not, you have never responded to my verse that I gave you.
No, sir/maam. If your main goal is to learn, then I’m here to discuss things. However, debates are fruitless. You can take your debate elsewhere.
By the way, who told you I’m condemning people with my article? It’s never in the hands of man to condemn.
At this moment, you are condemning those who translated the NIV for propagating unbiblical doctrine. I am not here to learn. I am here to convince you to stop misleading people and take this article down.
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
That is the verse.
What is defined as the soul. Thomas Aquinas believed that the soul is what completes the human body. The human part of it dies with the physical death, but it goes on eternally.
Soul is nephesh in Hebrew. It is the same word used to refer to animals. When God created Adam, he became a living soul. The Bible tells us that it is only God who has immortality. Why would you equate yourself to God by claiming you have an immortal soul?
I am not equating myself with God. Did you know that the Greek for man is used also to describe Jesus in the New Testament. (WOW so amazing *sarcastic). God made man in his own image, not just physically, but also spiritually. To be like him spiritually, he also made our souls eternal. Give me a Bible verse saying only God has immortality. Sure, no person every existed forever, only God has done that because he has always been and will be. 1 Corinthians 15:52-53 says “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality.” So mankind does become immortal.
Another verse :Ecclesiastes 12:7 ESV
“And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.” Man’s body or his physical “soul” will return to the ground and to the dust; our physical bodies will pass away. The actual spiritual soul or our spirit then goes to God.
15 which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16 who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen. 1 Timothy 6:15-16
That’s the verse where it says God is the only one who has immortality.
Now, give me a verse that exactly put together the words “immortal” and “soul” side by side.
I think you’re equating soul and spirit. They are not the same. The spirit in man is the one that God breathes to us. Soul is the flesh. Even animals are called souls in the Bible.
except that you forget that man is different from the animals, in that his soul is his spirit.
I read the article. Why did Jesus use a tainted illustration. Was he not wholy pure? Why must every passage be turned around over and over when for a different meaning when it is blatantly stated.
If the man’s point is correct why is there that last part of the passage saying “And besides all this, between us and you there is a great chasm fixed, so that those who wish to come over from here to you will not be able, and that none may cross over from there to us.”
Your point is a well taught doctrine but if you take time to study more the Bible concerning that doctrine, withou basing on already taught interpretation, you’ll notice it’s not support by God’s word.
The internet has a lot of help with original language translation. Look up the words repentance, hell, eternal.
Praise God for the brilliant NIV,
I read the Orthodox Study Bible, I feel like it’s the most accurate. >< God bless!
I vote for the Douay Rheims Bible
I read the NIV and I also have NKJV and because of my own desire to dive deeper into my relationship with Christ I am going to get a Jewish Christian Bible. All translations and standards have differences but I will say this. Jesus is the only Way to eternal life. Jesus is 100% God and was 100% human at the same time and it is by the Holy Spirit, thirsty for reading my Bible, and prayer that guides my walk and most of my best communication with the Holy Spirit has been with my NIV. That said everyone has their personal preference and I respect that. My fear is that if there is more talk on dividing one Bible version over another then more risk and harm will come where people may begin to question all that is written in the Bible. Do not box the power of the Holy Spirit and fall for the devils trap by focusing on certain words or omissions where the Truth is plainly seen in all translations the Jesus Christ is the only Way to salvation. Encourage the thirsty and those who question the differences to trust what the Holy Spirit guides them. Focus on Jesus and proclaiming the Good news instead of what Bible is better. We all have a personal version that God speaks personally to us and if we are thirsty we will dive deeper and the Holy Spirit will guide us.
Thanks for your comment, Judy.
It is important too that we know the truth when we are reading Scripture. I wrote this article to warn people that they are missing some truths when they simply rely on NIV.
Who has the truth? Do the JW’S, SDA’s, Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian’s, Pentecostal’s, have the Truth?
Everybody believes they have the truth and complain about everybody they believe doesn’t. That kind of thinking only destroys the already debacled religion of Christianity.
Jesus is NOT God. Jesus said it repeatedly that he was not God. Jesus said “I and the Father are one”– is no different than when a man and woman in marriage become one. Calling Jesus God, and worshipping Jesus, is an act of idolatry. I highly recommend you read who God is in the Old Testament.
Can you give me verses that prove Christ is not God?
Amy, you are largely correct. The Bible teaches that Jesus, as the Son of Man and the Son of God, was not God. Numbers 23:19 is pretty clear, and so is John 1:18–which was written by John well after Jesus had returned to heaven. If John had not seen God, and, under inspiration had written that no one has “at any time,” then Jesus cannot have been God. Furthermore, compare James 1:13 which tells us that God cannot be tempted with evil to Matthew 4:1 which says Jesus was tempted. Obviously, if God cannot be tempted, and Jesus was tempted, that should answer some questions. Confirmation exists in the fact that Jesus died, and God is said to be immortal (1 Tim. 6:16).
However, the Bible also teaches that God was “in” Christ (2 Cor. 5:19). When people worshipped at Jesus’ feet, he never once rebuked them, as did the angel in Rev. 19:10 when John fell at his feet. Jesus permitted people to worship that Divinity which was within him, accepting their worship as being directed, not at the man, but at the God within. Hebrews 10:5, 20, etc. has some good subject matter for study in terms of Jesus’ divine-human nature. His human nature was not God, but his divine nature was “all the fulness of the Godhead” (Col. 2:9).
One reason there is a lot of confusion on this issue is that God spoke through Jesus–using God’s own words (e.g. “I AM”). Jesus tells us so in John 14 and elsewhere.
What you have said is false. You need to study the earliest Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts, not much later Latin translations. The KJV (and subsequently the NKJV) were translations of late documents, which often included misprints and additions: the warning here is to stay away from the KJV and NKJV, and rely more heavily on the NIV or NRSV. One example you quoted was Ephesians 5:9. Please check out the interlinear Greek version on Biblehub and you will see that the word ‘photos’, which means light (like a photograph) is given, rather than ‘pneuma’ which means spirit / wind / breath.
Also, which translation used is not a salvation issue. Faith in Christ is. As long as a Bible translation continues to state that God is gracious and by faith saves us, then it really doesn’t matter and there is no need to justify before God at the judgement which version was used.
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First you must understand the Bible was first written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Then there in the issue of translation, culture, meanings, and the colloquial use of words and phrases. I am partial to the NIV because of the vast number of contributors and scholars in the NIV, There distinct differences between translations and versions and even “new versions.”.
I think your rejection of the NIV is simplistic and does not focus on whether any one version neglects sound doctrine. I have read and re-read various versions of the Bible ~~KJV, NKJV, NIV, NASB, CSB AND NLT. If you want to critique some versions look more closely at the NASB, ESV, & KJV because they are more word for word translations rather than thought for thought. This creates huge discrepancies in the original message.
Just about every translation is good for reading. The KJV is best for study because all the lexicons and most interlinears are geared towards it. The KJV is NOT the most accurate translation.
thanks for this i could not belive it but my pastor is now quoting this bible its insaine
Obviously I am several years late, so you may not even see this, but I thought I would point something out. In reason #4, you claimed that the NIV translation denies Christ’s creatorship. You wrote that it makes a direct assault on his diving nature. But this not true. It translated that specific verse differently than NKJV but in John 1:3 of the NIV it says that through him all things were made and without him nothing was made. I understand the frustration with its missing verses and wording in certain other verses, but it is not blasphemous as you are accusing it of being.
I have used NIV my whole life (though I now use the ESV more often because I do recognize some mistakes of the NIV) and I have never been led to the conclusion that Christ is not divine or that Christ is not creator, even in my youngest days of being a Christian.
the NIV is a horrible translation but I figured I should correct you on dietary laws since we are under a new covenant.
i use the ESV but I will use the nkjv since that is what you use even though I believe it is an inferior translation.
”10 Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance 11 and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. 13 And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.”
14 But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has [f]cleansed you must not call common.” 16 This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again” acts 10:10-16 nkjv
the dietary laws were put in place to separate the Jews from the Gentiles. we are no longer under those laws but if it goes against your conscience to do something and you still do it then it becomes a sin for you
i can’t remember the chapter but the Bible talks about keeping a good conscience all through the NT
The food law was never been abolished.
Acts 10 only means that God was revealing to Peter that there’s no unclean people now, but salvation is for all people, gentile or Jewish.
Here’s a good explanation of this:
What a load of crap! The NKJV is one of the most corrupt versions of the Bible on the planet. It is total junk as are most modern translations. The first clue is that they leave God’s true name Jehovah out of the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures and when those scriptures are quoted in the Greek scriptures they replace the name with the title Lord mostly. Jesus is God’s son not God. Nor is he the creator. He is our Lord and Savior and he died for our sins balancing what Adam lost, which was perfect human life. If he were God as most Trinitarians falsely claim then it would mean a God was given in the place of a man which does not equal out the scales of justice. The price would be way to high. It was a perfect man for a perfect man, not God for a perfect man. God is way higher than any man. There are many examples of the new or old king James version being very corrupt as in 1st John 5:19 which was added to support the Trinity which is totally untrue and in no way taught in the Bible. I wander how much this person is being paid to support this version because it’s a real joke to those who actually know what the Bible really says. Sad!
Thanks for your comment.
Let me make this very clear and it seems you just make assumption. Nowhere in my blog you’ll read that NKJV or KJV is a perfect translation. There are errors as well as you pointed out like I John 5;19. It’s a blatant error added to support the trinity doctrine.
Moreover, I do agree that modern translations remove God’s true name, which is of course not Jehovah.
We simply need to use translations that are available to us and adjust accordingly based on the truth we learned.
I can see that you have put a lot of thought and time into this comparison but you are misleading early Christian’s just like you claim the Bible is. The KJV was written 400 years ago. The NKJV is just an updated version of the original. Since 400 years ago, older manuscripts have been found dating closer to the lifetime of our Lord. These manuscripts did not include the versus that you say were “left out”. Personally the closer a manuscript is to the lifetime of Christ, the more inclined I am to believe it is more accurate. Time tends to exaggerate things so at some point those verses were added to the King James. I believe if you’re truly interested in giving an honest assessment of these two translations, you should include that fact so that people have all the information.
Please stop with this rubbish, i have gone through alot of the stuff in the post and the only thing i agree on is that yes there are word changes in order to make chapter and verse easier to read, nothing is missing from KJV to NIV, forget chapter and verse, these are just reference points, if something looks like it is missing then read the previous verse and you`ll find it …….. i am a KJV reader of the word but this stuff annoys me
One might like to think that every version is different only in how the translators chose to word their translations, but nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that Joshua has barely scratched the surface of the deleterious changes the NIV has brought in. While there have been many deletions/omissions, there have also been additions/glosses and outright alterations to support doctrinal biases.
The KJV translation was made during a time when the translators’ lives were risked in order to do it. In other parts of Europe, men had been burnt at the stake for providing people with the scriptures in their own language, such as William Tyndale, martyred October 6, 1536 for his English translation, from which the KJV borrowed extensively.
But the NIV appears to have had an entirely different motivation for its translators than that of providing people with the pure word of God. Was it to keep the cash registers ticking? Was it to make a particular doctrinal impact in several key theological areas? Both? Let the reader decide: I would invite you to consider some of the differences which I have found, shown in a table here — http://www.mundall.com/erik/NIV-KJV.htm
To me, the omissions are only a part of the harm caused by the NIV. The biggest problem is the amount of changes to the text which impact doctrine. For example, there is no New Testament command to fast (e.g. fast and pray). The entire law is said to be abolished in the NIV — the very law of which Jesus said not a jot nor a tittle should be in any wise removed.
I won’t even read the NIV for personal devotions, much less for any doctrinal matter.
Thanks for taking the time to write this article. I have a few comments. The first is that you may be confused on the “missing verses” point. The NIV makes a choice not to include them because they are not in the oldest manuscripts to be found. This doesn’t mean that the NIV is a bad translation, it’s just a decision that the translators made. You can go to a different translation to get those verses, the NASB doesn’t include them often either. I think the other point of contention might be on what a translation is for. There isn’t really a “best translation” because there is no 1 to 1 with ancient hebrew/greek and our modern languages and because of the state of the manuscripts we have. Different translations are meant to be used in different settings and for different purposes, the best solution is to use many translations, like tools in your toolbox, depending on what you’re doing. For example, the NIV strikes a nice balance between easy reading and word for word translation, you might want to use it to read to students or in your quiet time, while the NASB is harder to read, but is more 1 to 1 with the origional language and so on.
Thanks for your comment and I do agree that we need to use different translations to get the best meaning of a particular verse.
I would say though that when it comes to doctrinal issues, it’s best to go back to bible translations that is based on the received text.
It’s not true that the older the manuscript, the more accurate it is.
SO YOU FANCY YOURSELF AS THE AUTHORITY ON WHAT IS ACCURATE? “At this point, let me just make it very clear. There’s no perfect Bible translation, but there’s only the perfect Word of God written in its original form. Even the King James and New King James Version aren’t 100% accurate. There are certain words that could have been translated in a better way. Nevertheless, it is a way better translation than the NIV.”
Hi Ju Co,
Nowhere in my post that says NKJV or KJV is a perfect translation. It has flaws and errors as well.
The main point of this blog is to show people that the NIV is not a good translation to base doctrines.
Why would you “rely your salvation” on a translated version of the word of God? The only foundation for salvation is the finished work of Jesus!
How do you understand the work of Jesus if you don’t have a copy of the Word of God?
Never is a strong word. You do not mention the history of the NIV Bibles related to the multiple changes they have made. You make some helpful comparative comments, but please do not exaggerate if you have no time to address textual criticism and the authority that original Greek copies may or may not have.